@CDM: two different debates: problems of CDM and #lossanddamage from CC impacts. have not seen "large-scale" livelihood loss from CDM, you?
@david: #lossanddamage research can advance understanding on attribution. Upcoming paper on www.lossanddamage.net provides science update
Tom: Definitely this problem of how much of a damage or loss should be attributed to climate change is a huge one. I remember talking to an Asian Development Bank expert who talked about how the bank could pay for only the extra height of a sea wall needed for climate change impacts rather than the whole thing in some cases. Very difficult stuff!
@Meera @Eu_Hope @Koko Agree that we can't put the focus on insurance payouts and downstream actions to address #lossanddamage - poor people will always loose out. Social protection - cash transfers, pensions, food for work etc. will need to be blended that have an eye on tackling risk and vulnerability
Definitely proactive is better than reactive.....
There are some fundamental contradictions that we should be cognizant of here that seems to set in some confusion. The WP is develop approaches to ADDRESS L&D. But the discussion has been about preventing loss and damage through reducing risk. So is this addressing, or reducing. Perhaps both?
@Doha: need commitments for climate finance beyond 2012, progress on MRV mechanism, and new pledges for Adaptation Fund #lossanddamage
@davidrossati @Tom For example, if the next UNFCCC climate agreement enshrined a commitment that, say, 10% of disaster aid or 1% of national budgets (random figure) should be spent on disaster risk reduction, then if governments did not do that, perhaps they could be held more accountable for #lossanddamage. Anyone pushing for that? (Doubt it somehow)
@Kashmala The way to reduce L&D is mitigation, adaptation, DRR - to be tackled through existing measures. The rest - the losses and damages need new mechanisms. We have to just make sure the former is working well as the priority
@Ali: mechanism on #lossanddamage can help most vulnerable if rightly designed, if governments also in poor countries pursue this focus
@aliC, #lossanddamage is happening at the local level. The solutions therefore also have to be designed for that level. The international mechanism has to ensure full incorporation of those for it to be successful.
@Victoria You can't really in meaningful ways - we move beyond economic and financial valuations of some of these things e.g. cultural destruction and need to look at wider justice issues. This is one of the trickiest dimensions, but have to use it as a lever to get action on mitigation and adaptation
@Victoria - There are lots of ways to put safeguards and fiduciary risk management practices in place to try to ensure that corruption doesn't happen. However, we should not use the threat of corruption as a reason for inaction. Civil society have an important role to play here in promoting accountability